#idempiere IRC log for Thursday, 2017-07-27

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Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-343516:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] feedback: when printformat = isForm then hide icon. because still ID will be returned no valuable information for user.16:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-343516:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] mpowacht created IDEMPIERE-3437 Error creating LCO_InvoiceWithholding for reversal invoice16:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-343716:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] soo.fang@gmail.com updated IDEMPIERE-343416:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] Hi Michel, I was able to simulate the issue as you described. It is a rounding issue and I've 2 suggestion to resolve the problem. Please advise. 1. make the currency rate -> 0.02937 2. Accounting Schema: Use Currency Balancing=Y16:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-343416:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] soo.fang@gmail.com updated IDEMPIERE-343416:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] Hi Michel, I was able to simulate the issue as you described. It is a rounding issue and I've 2 suggestion to resolve the problem. Please advise. 1. make the currency rate -> 0.02937 2. Accounting Schema: Use Currency Balancing=Y Note that currency balancing account is usually use for currency rounding issue.16:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-343416:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] nmicoud updated IDEMPIERE-3435 Attachment set to "IDEMPIERE-3435_v2.patch"16:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-343516:19
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] nmicoud updated IDEMPIERE-343516:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] Hi [~norbert.bede], Patch v2 do not show the button when IsForm = Y Thanks for the feedback, Regards, Nicolas16:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-343516:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] mpowacht updated IDEMPIERE-343416:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] Hi Soo Fang, I'm not a big fan of currency balancing. If you recall we started out with currency balancing and found other issues, for example situations where 0.01 was posted to A/P and realized gain/loss, which leaves an A/P balance of 0.01 even the invoice was paid in full. So by switching to currency balancing, we are just moving the problem again. As for the currency rate, are you saying that16:20
Not-9df2rounding all currency pairs to 5 decimals should resolve all rounding and posting issues, or will this only work in this particular case? I'd have no problem doing that. Please let me know, Michael16:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-343416:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] soo.fang@gmail.com updated IDEMPIERE-343416:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] hi Micheal, I'm not sure it will works for all the scenario and therefore we will need the currency balancing to fall back on. With currency balancing, at least we will know there is rounding issue to resolve when there is balance in it. Also, having the rounding balance in currency balancing account is better than having it in A/P.16:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-343416:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] soo.fang@gmail.com updated IDEMPIERE-343416:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] hi Micheal, I'm not sure it will works for all the scenario and therefore we will need the currency balancing to fall back on. With currency balancing, at least we will know there is rounding issue to resolve when there is balance in it. Also, having the rounding balance in currency balancing account is better than having it in A/P. If there is any pending issue with the currency balancing posting, we16:20
Not-9df2need to resolve it.16:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-343416:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] mpowacht updated IDEMPIERE-343416:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] Thanks Soo Fang, I had currency balancing turned on originally and I turned it off because A/P balances were not zero in alternative schema currency AFTER payment allocation. This to me is equally bad as the issue above. Before I consider turning on currency balancing again (which of course needs to be done with care and after a proper impact analysis because we already have ongoing transactions), we need16:20
Not-9df2to make sure that currency balancing actually works in all scenarios as you suggested. The first currency balancing issue to be resolved is the one I sent to you and provided feedback last time on Wed. 28/6. After resolving this issue, we can start testing and finding all other loop holes that may exist. Thanks, Michael16:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-343416:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] hieplq updated IDEMPIERE-3425 Attachment set to "gmap.png"16:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-342516:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] hieplq updated IDEMPIERE-342516:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] next step !gmap.png|thumbnail!16:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-342516:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] hengsin updated IDEMPIERE-307916:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] It seems wrong though that the steps above will create ASI/Serial storage record with -1 on hand. Perhaps the system should be smart enough to reduce on hand from the no asi storage record instead ( an autogenerated movement before complete of shipment ? ).16:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-307916:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-307916:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] When the warehouse is configured to disallow negative - the test case must not be allowed. But when is configured to allow negative the companies could do a post-process to serialize the inventory. In this test case the process was tried with a Physical Inventory, but can be done alternatively with Internal Use, or maybe even with Material Movement. But I think anyways the test case illustrates that the16:20
Not-9df2uniqueness verified in Physical Inventory doesn't match the new uniqueness created by IDEMPIERE-1770 Similar issues have been reported in forums, like https://groups.google.com/d/msg/idempiere/1mrxI7b3Y8E/xJtocubvAQAJ ________ On the other hand - what our latest test cases have shown is that it becomes a big issue to mix without-ASI and with-ASI inventory - because the system was not able to manage the without-ASI16:20
Not-9df2properly with the normal documents. However, with the implementation of IDEMPIERE-1770 maybe could be possible to manage it properly as the user could fill the LineMA without ASI (I haven't tested that case) and force the system to move the without-ASI stock instead of doing FIFO (which is the behavior leaving the ASI empty on Line). Regards, Carlos Ruiz16:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-307916:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss created IDEMPIERE-3438 Capture user suggestions for field terminology and context help16:20
Not-9df2[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-343816:20
Not-9df2[iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to release-4.1 [+2/-0/±0] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/16:20
Not-9df2[iDempiere] globalqss 11535da - IDEMPIERE-1157 Adding functionality to add charts on the standard windows16:20
Not-9df2[iDempiere4.1] jenkins built #156 completed (success) http://ci.idempiere.org/job/iDempiere4.1/156/16:20
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