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HansR42It seems that wiki still not work05:31
HansR42This is the error message05:32
HansR42A database error has occurred. Did you forget to run maintenance/update.php after upgrading? See: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script05:32
HansR42Query: DELETE FROM "objectcache" WHERE keyname = 'idempiere:messages:de' AND exptime = '2015-03-05 19:38:05+00'05:32
HansR42Function: SqlBagOStuff::get05:32
HansR42Error: 1 ERROR: transaction is read-only05:32
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Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] hieplq updated IDEMPIERE-1882 status set to "Closed" -resolution set to "Duplicate"07:06
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] complete it by merged with IDEMPIERE-238907:06
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-188207:06
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] hieplq updated IDEMPIERE-2389 assignee set to "hieplq"07:06
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-238907:06
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] hieplq updated IDEMPIERE-2389 status set to "Open"07:08
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] comment of carlos from IDEMPIERE-1882 * Language box and parameter must not be shown if the client is not multi lingual doc (like GardenWorld) * Would be great to add the WDateRange to dates on Find window * Good if this can be integrated also to reports on buttons (like Financial Report button)07:08
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-238907:08
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] jan.thielemann updated IDEMPIERE-249207:21
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] We should create a wiki page. I saw there was a draft page covering users, roles and other stuff. when the wiki is back i'll start documenting some things07:21
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-249207:21
JanThielemanntbayen: how does the wiki migration goes on?07:31
tbayenI am working on it. I am learning hard lessons about using postgresql under low memory conditions. But I think I could get all data out of the old machine. :-) Now I am setting up the new one.07:32
tbayenI expect that working in an hour or so. But don't trust my words!07:32
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tbayenOk. The new wiki server seems up and running. Seems that I am not as stupid as I thought. ;-) The next problem is that our nameserver monarch is asleep in the Colombian night.07:45
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red1I see. Good07:55
tbayenI will try to set up a proxy for the meanwhile. I have no experience with that. But I should get it faster than Carlos is awake.07:58
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tbayenHi all :-) The wiki is back and successfully migrated to a new server.08:13
tbayenCould please someone else check if everything is there and works?08:14
JanThielemannlooks good08:15
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nmicoudhi @all ; looks good from here too08:16
tbayenThe new server is more powerful and it is dedicated only to the wiki. I hope that this will bring permanent stability. :-)08:16
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tbayenred1, now I may have time for a small chat. I was a bit nervous while the wiki was not up.08:21
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norbertbedetbayen09:04
norbertbedehi09:04
norbertbedebank docs ?09:04
norbertbededid you review09:04
norbertbedenext week we must tart coding09:04
norbertbedewell09:04
tbayenHi norbertbede09:06
tbayenI only had a short look. Too much work here. :-( I will care about it at the weekend and send you my thoughts.09:06
norbertbedeno carnival this weekend :)09:08
norbertbedehehe09:08
norbertbedeok. inform me pls then09:09
norbertbedewe starting next week with you reqs or witout :(09:10
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tomassvikruhaHi everybody, can you somebody explain why there is used a bulgarian constant in display logic of some fields in Product Info Window?10:05
tomassvikruhathere is Display logic like @1113|M_PriceList_Version_ID@>010:06
tomassvikruhawhat is purpose of 1113 number?10:06
tomassvikruhaouch, already found answer on https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/idempiere/bwxH0syta4810:09
JanThielemannmagic numbe ri thinkg10:41
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] hieplq updated IDEMPIERE-2499 labels set to "+Patch" -Attachment set to "IDEMPIERE-2499.patch"10:49
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-249910:49
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] hieplq updated IDEMPIERE-2499 status set to "Peer Review Queue"10:49
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-249910:49
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red1_tbayen: did u see my answers to your questions yesterday about been a slave of Dietmar?11:57
tbayenno, I didnt see it. Now I found two lines. Is that what you are speaking about?11:58
red1_haha could be12:26
red1_It is so funny, but not actually because i keep track with Dietmar and Soma12:26
tbayenhow did that happen?12:27
red1_to find out what they are up to and if they are doing OK12:27
red1_i tried to advice but you know Asians are bad at giving advice to Europeans12:27
red1_but somehow things seem OK, Dietmar do some stone heating fireplace system and then landed a customer for iDempiere from a Juice distributor12:28
red1_strange, i thought all juice is beer, or maybe its beer12:28
red1_and they seem to pack and distribute so perhaps we can pay u a visit some time again :D12:29
tbayenhaha!12:30
tbayenWho did the integration? Dietmar alone?12:30
red1_He just started the install, and gather the information12:31
red1_of course i told him if i am there i will help him and he beleved me12:31
tbayenI dont understand. It is not yet done?12:31
red1_that is why i need to go first to help him12:31
red1_maybe u took my joke of been his employee too seriously12:32
tbayenAh. ok. Now I understand. He called you to help him with the integration. That seems like a wise idea. :)12:32
red1_he just told me that he is willing to share the cake for me to help him.12:32
tbayenThat sounds ok for me. (It depends on the size of the cake.)12:33
red1_and since Hiep maybe there also, perhaps we can have a mini conference somewhere ?12:33
tbayenBut you will not be near to Krefeld, won't you?12:33
red1_The cake is not enough for Krefeld :D12:33
tbayenyes, we can. I forgot about hiep. :-) I can bring Diego with me - my new employee.12:33
red1_But we can bring some Austrian chocolates if you want12:34
red1_Oh, you have a new slave ?12:34
red1_and he is Deigo Ruiz? Carlos' son?12:34
tbayenI did not talk much about that yet because the laws to employ foreign people are quite difficult here. But in the meanwhile it seems like it will really happen. :-)12:35
red1_aha!12:35
tbayenHe carries a well-known name. I hope he will hold half of the expectations. :-D12:35
red1_I am also bringing my son..12:36
tbayenDo you know him personally?12:36
red1_He holds an even more famous name12:36
red1_Of course, you are speaking about Colombia12:36
red1_I am no foreigner to the Latino world12:36
red1_Oh i forgot, you are the one who gave me the tickets to fly there12:36
red1_i mean you forgot12:36
red1_So if you employ my son, just imagine how much is in your hands12:37
tbayenHahaha! You are modest like everytime.12:37
tbayenDid you meet Diego and talked or worked with him?12:38
red1_I met him and Carlos other son12:38
red1_and a few more beautiful women of the household12:38
red1_that is why you do not realise i know him well12:39
red1_You can tell Diego now what i say and he will admit how much i know him12:39
tbayenHmmm... why did Carlos send me his son and not the beautiful women?!? Some answers will always stay open12:39
red1_I can tell you that Diego worked in Disneyland12:39
red1_Oh no, i should not have told you everything12:40
red1_But if you organise a conference to bring me and my son there to your attic, perhaps i will tell you more.12:40
tbayenWhen Diego is here one of the first projects is the conference. :-) I like it in August.12:41
tbayenBut I can't bring you into the attic. :-o It is sold to my new employee.12:42
red1_You had a conference in August?12:42
tbayenI want to do one in August.12:42
red1_Then i have to ask the Russian lady across the road12:42
tbayenIf you are still in contact with her - that would be perfect. You can play squash to pay for the bed.12:44
red1_No its badminton12:44
red1_and no she already has someone else in her bed12:44
red1_Anyway we be leaving in June end back to Paris / UK12:45
tbayenThat will be bad for my August schedule. :-( Or can you come back later?12:45
red1_if my employer gets me another ticket12:46
red1_or we convince Brazil to take me for three months so i can return to Europe for the other three months visa12:47
red1_I wrote Hilario last year when i was in Cameroon and he promised to reply with answer but did not12:50
red1_But if a German write to him that will wake him up12:52
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norbertbedehi all13:36
norbertbedeany idea how can i make role - e.g. marketing manager - able to list users but denied open them in user window ?13:37
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norbertbedeso denied open user window13:37
norbertbedebut see list of users13:37
nmicoudyou just remove the access to the user window, no ?13:38
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ocurielesHi Guys14:01
ocurielesi have a question14:01
ocurielesis possible independent accounting for organization?14:03
ocurielesin the Wiki i see this: You can define multiple accounting schema per client (for parallel accounting)14:05
ocurielesbut i don't need paralell accounting14:05
ocurielesi need accounting by ORG independent14:05
ocurielesis possible that ?14:05
nmicoudAFAIU, you just need to put the org as an accounting dimension. And when exporting/reporting on FactAcct, you filter on AD_Org_ID14:06
ocurielesOK, thanks14:10
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Not-522e[iDempiere] hengsin pushed 1 commit to development [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/14:34
Not-522e[iDempiere] hengsin 6bbb941 - IDEMPIERE-2420 issue Form too many keys when has long process. Always suspend resource/request for next schedule/activate call.14:34
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Nonehi all, i'm a potential new adempiere user... i'm looking for a tutorial that explain some of the configuration and managment... you have any link to suggest?14:42
Nonesorry for my poor english14:42
norbertbedeadempiere or idempiere ?14:44
norbertbededifferent systems14:44
norbertbede:)14:44
Noneadempiere14:48
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red1_tbayen: booking train tickets on BAHN.de15:53
red1_what is meant by "Train with reservation obligation"15:53
tbayenNormally you can decide if you want a reserved seat or not. The reservation costs a bit extra.15:54
red1_So without it i am still OK?15:54
tbayenIn some trains you have to reserve a seat. There are no no-reserved tickets and everyone has to have a seat.15:54
tbayenI believe these are mostly the high-speed trains like the ICE.15:54
red1_as we can sit anywhere and there will be available?15:54
red1_TGV 9553 Train with reservation obligation, 2 seats in the 2. class, likely no information available, up, no information available, Any zone15:55
tbayenYou can see at the train number (the beginning alpha characters) which kind of train it is. If it is ICE it is special.15:56
red1_and i did not know that children under 15 travel free with their parents15:56
tbayenTGV is the french kind of ICE. It is the french high-speed train.15:56
red1_ICE 595 No seat reservation required15:56
tbayenThe reservation system in ICE and TGV is a bit like in an airplane, not like a train in malaysia. ;)15:56
red1_so the TGV 9553 above with reservation obligation means i must just seat at the spot without displayed of reservation?15:57
red1_as long as i am OK without doing further after clicking on the buy button except printing the tickets, then i proeed15:58
tbayenAll these rules depend on very different things. Don't be sure that an "ICE rule" has no exceptions when you are on a special route, on a special day or something. The whole system is full of exceptions and exceptions of exceptions. The only way to know what it costs is to go to the website and look into your very own connection.15:58
red1_Now its at a page where it says the exact amount to pay and i have to click proceed15:59
red1_the curious info is what i posted above15:59
tbayenI think that you are right. But I am far from being a specialist at trains or TGV. :-)15:59
red1_the tickets does say i can go from Paris to Munich on 30th March from 9am till 3.45 pm16:00
red1_just this reservation info confuses me16:00
red1_now i know why people hate our Wiki16:01
tbayenIn general I would say: If you have a ticket you can be quite sure that there will be some train and someone who leads you to a seat or a place to stand. You can't do much wrong. This system is made for grandmoms.16:01
red1_Now i have to be sure how smart a grandmom is in Europe16:02
tbayen:-) Send them a mail if you are still unsure.16:02
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red1_If i wait, the grandmom will pay more16:03
red1_ahhh .. i clicked proceed and it says "Unfortunately all seats are now fully booked. As a seat reservation is required, the offer is no longer available."16:03
red1_what will grandma say now?16:03
tbayenThere are seniors discounts, early bird discounts, last minute discounts, discounts if you have a card and during the last soccer championship there was a discount for every german goal. Noone understands this. I am not sure who wrote their ERP.16:04
red1_Must be SAP?16:06
red1_I am going thru the process again but this time i think i have to tick the reservation of 9euros16:06
tbayenCan't be SAP: At the end most of the trains drive.16:06
red1_Should i take first class? is it worth it?16:09
tbayennope.16:09
red1_definitely less grandmas there16:10
tbayenIt is really great. But I think the normal class is also very good in germany. If you drive the high-speed trains then everything is great.16:10
red1_only 10 euro more per person16:10
tbayenI am not sure what the difference exactly is. Germans mostly use the standard class. Shall I google german pages to clarify that?16:11
red1_I rather bother you now rather than regret later :P16:13
tbayenI read there is more place for the legs. And sometimes the seat reservation is included - so it may be not as expensive as it looks. And under some cisrumstances it is easier to change a ticket.16:13
red1_its 118 standard, 138 first class16:13
red1_118 has failed so if add 9 = 12716:14
red1_i might as well add 11 if its more legs16:14
tbayenYou will not regret the first class. But it may be that in the second you will not see a difference because it is also good. :-)16:14
tbayenFor 11 euros you can afford it. And later tell me.16:15
tbayenI read a marketing text that in the first class you have a caretaker who smiles at you.16:16
red1_first class includes seat reservation16:16
tbayenThat says enough about german train personnel in the other classes. :-D16:16
red1_ah that is good enough16:17
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red1_now further selection - should i choose compartment or open table?16:19
red1_upper lower floor16:19
red1_?16:19
red1_i think open table as my son will want to see more16:20
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tbayenthe table is more popular. You have a good place for a laptop or a book or such. But other people like to sit in a row.16:29
tbayenYears ago there were electricity plugs only at the table. But I am not sure if this is still the case.16:30
red1_i remember second class has plug points16:31
red1_i have bought now16:32
red1_its first class16:32
red1_table window facing each other16:32
tbayenThe travel adventure begins with the booking. :-)16:32
tbayenSitting in the high speed train will be fun for your son.16:33
red1_Yes i have no more fun except to see my son have fun16:40
tbayenHow old is he?16:41
red1_He has taken a brave journey with me that he stop school and completely follow the path of a self learning traveler.16:41
red1_15 yrs16:41
red1_birthday last November 2716:41
red1_In life one has to take some crazy risks16:42
red1_this is one i am happy to take16:42
tbayen15? He should go to school.16:42
red1_thats what my wife said too16:43
red1_but what if i want to change the world?16:43
tbayenYour wife is wise. Do what she sais.16:43
red1_I mean i want my son to continue after i failed to change the world16:43
tbayenYou can't change the world. There is no source code.16:43
red1_Then she shouldn't have married me :D16:44
red1_You should have told me earlier before Dietmar employed me16:44
red1_Now i have to tell Dietmar the same things16:44
red1_Perhaps you can school him better16:45
red1_I never regretted not having gone thru university instead of working as a young teacher before16:45
red1_if not i know for sure i would have been scared to fork Compiere16:46
tbayenWith 15 you need a classroom and a teacher.16:46
red1_Can a high speed first class train compartment do?16:46
red1_These two weeks i enjoy my son asking me more questions than his entire life16:46
red1_or my entire life16:46
red1_He asked me many dumb questions but i appreciate that he asked me16:47
tbayenAnd now you bring him to Dietmar so he learns to become a tramp... Which world will that change? Change his world and give him a professional education.16:47
red1_But that tramp made it and turn around even though we chased him out16:47
red1_Now that is a world class tramp16:47
red1_And still sells iDempiere and still wants the customer to meet me16:48
tbayenWho is world class? Dietmar?!? Good that I have my log running. I have to show you this sentence in some months... after the vienna job. We will see what you learned until then.16:48
red1_If he is from Humboldt-Universität i will not believe that he made it16:49
red1_But for been so disorganised that he lost his car exhaust when he first drove me in the winter night over to Austria before16:50
tbayenIt is not the same a) to know about idempiere b) to sell idempiere and b) to get idempiere working.16:50
tbayenc)16:50
tbayenDid he pay your ticket?16:51
red1_and then lost his wife on my way out of Austria, and for been declared not fit to attend the conference by his fuhrer.16:51
red1_He got it working16:51
red1_at least setup at his site16:51
red1_He gave me the link16:52
red1_then i told him, "Please do not do anything until i arrive"16:52
tbayenNo - I am not talking about a running demo. I talk about a real world installation.16:52
red1_That is why i told him not to do anything16:52
tbayenI know what I am talking about. I am doing it since three years now. :-D16:52
red1_i prefer a running demo that still runs16:52
red1_So do i, i cannot do one complete one 11 years now.16:53
red1_After i reached Vienna (he already booked me a flat) then i will believe16:54
red1_i mean i will inform you16:54
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red1_so for now, i am rushing to finish something better for Libero16:56
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red1_i will try to finish new InfoWindows to handle from MRP Info and its selective processing 'Calculate Material Plan'16:57
red1_I hope hieplq has not improved InfoWindow too much since the days Xolali and us worked on it after having tequila at your kitchen16:57
hieplqno more strange thing, just refine it :D16:59
red1_Yes you are right because i just imported WMS and its InfoWindow comes out fine17:00
red1_InfoWindow is the most important window17:00
red1_hieplq: u have not confirmed your travel to Slovakia?17:01
hieplqi on hand all document today. next week go to ha noi to apply visa. i hope everything will ok.17:02
red1_u goint to Slovakia embassy or immigration in Hanoi?17:03
red1_once u rested in Bratislava, i will come there stay with Nasem, and invite u back to Vienna17:04
red1_u should ask for maximum 90 days stay17:04
red1_because there be more things than you expected in Europe17:04
hieplqSlovakia embassy, some time i contact a girl staft, i feeling she is nice, so feeling good.17:05
hieplqyes, i ask for maximum in case it's free :D17:05
red1_thats what i mean, your return ticket in full 90 days17:05
red1_i am going for 92 days17:06
red1_3 days in UK17:06
red1_if there is more project, i will go Brazil or Japan17:06
red1_all for Nasem to travel17:07
hieplqfind out him a girl, it more interest than old man.17:08
tbayenhieplq, you should ask what happens if you want to come back for a conference later in the year. Perhaps you have to spare some of the 90 days.17:09
tbayenI think I will fix the schedule in the next two weeks. I wanted to do that when Diego is here.17:09
red1_when is Diego there?17:09
tbayenNext week17:10
red1_then its all good timing17:10
tbayenyep.17:10
hieplqi don't know about it. will ask and study this limit17:10
red1_the two sons are around17:10
hieplqthanks for advice17:10
red1_set conference for May?17:10
tbayenAugust. I need some planning and preparing. ;)17:12
hieplq@tbayen, how about conference in vietnam, more cheap, more surprised17:13
tbayenAt the end of the last conference I said: "If noone else will do it then I will do it again in two years". That's the rule I am following.17:14
red1_maybe a small mini conference17:14
red1_since u need not fly more ppl in17:15
red1_and there is no xolali17:15
red1_and i will take care of the tramp17:15
red1_there is also a good conference location in the countryside of Austria with Czech17:16
red1_place where i stayed with Dietmar's wife and children also17:16
red1_hieplq: next Thursday i and Nasem go to Bangkok for few days17:17
hieplq@tbayen just for fun. maybe end of your conference, i will text "If noone else will do it then I will do it again in two years in case i fluent say english or Germany" :D17:20
hieplq@red1_ to find out a girl for Nasem as my advice?17:20
red1_he will find for me.17:22
red1_anyway he is too shy17:22
tbayenhieplq, hahaha! I would like to have a conference in Vietnam. If you are faster than me announcing it officially it is your pride (and your work). ;)17:33
tbayenBut we should begin to think about the next one. The world conference 2017 in vietnam17:33
hieplqyour success will promote my pride. i sure it's interest in vietnam.17:36
HansR42Thomas, in August there is vacation time for people,  for people with children at school or when theay are teacher. Would it be possible to have the conference in September? Gives more time for planning :-)17:38
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Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-249219:42
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] So, can this ticket be closed?19:42
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-249219:42
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Not-522e[iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to release-2.1 [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/21:50
Not-522e[iDempiere] globalqss add7614 - IDEMPIERE-643 Packout handler not found for type MV/ET. / minor - fix wrong message21:50
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Not-522e[iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 1 commit to release-2.1 [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/23:03
Not-522e[iDempiere] hengsin b5c7682 - IDEMPIERE-2420 issue Form too many keys when has long process. Always suspend resource/request for next schedule/activate call.23:03
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-249923:33
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] Thanks [~hieplq], any way to reproduce the issue23:33
Not-522e[IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-249923:33
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