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'''''CarlosRuiz''''': PedroRozo, please test it and report any issue<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': PedroRozo, please test it and report any issue<br>
 
'''''red1''''': hengsin: so can i raise tracker that package in Callout be exported for use from outside?<br>
 
'''''red1''''': hengsin: so can i raise tracker that package in Callout be exported for use from outside?<br>
'''''Not-002''''': [iDempiere] CarlosRuiz_globalqss pushed 2 commits to development [+0/-0/±3] https://bitbucket.org/idempiere/idempiere/commits/<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [iDempiere] hengsin 2f530ce - IDEMPIERE-1362 Implement support to register/unregister available dashboard content. Fixed access to dashboard gadget not filter by user and role.<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [iDempiere] hengsin 8d38253 - IDEMPIERE-1064 Control dashboard access by role. Fixed maintenance of dashboard preference.<br>
 
 
'''''hengsin''''': yes, that can be useful if you want to extend it. what's your use case here ?<br>
 
'''''hengsin''''': yes, that can be useful if you want to extend it. what's your use case here ?<br>
 
'''''hengsin''''': Hi, Carlos, any progress on the zoom to detail tab issue ?<br>
 
'''''hengsin''''': Hi, Carlos, any progress on the zoom to detail tab issue ?<br>
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'''''red1''''': just my 2 threads<br>
 
'''''red1''''': just my 2 threads<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hengsin, about IDEMPIERE-1064 - did you check also the comment from Antonio Cañaveral?<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hengsin, about IDEMPIERE-1064 - did you check also the comment from Antonio Cañaveral?<br>
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1362 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Heng Sin Low" -resolution set to "Fixed"<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1362<br>
 
 
'''''PedroRozo''''': red1/carlos. I understand your "community oriented " perspective of testing ... but as a community, once in a while we should share our expriences/suggestion about challenges/stability of our components  ... something simple as:, we believe is stable .. or perhaps : better wait , alot of  developemnt is in progress ... anyways, thanks for your feedback .<br>
 
'''''PedroRozo''''': red1/carlos. I understand your "community oriented " perspective of testing ... but as a community, once in a while we should share our expriences/suggestion about challenges/stability of our components  ... something simple as:, we believe is stable .. or perhaps : better wait , alot of  developemnt is in progress ... anyways, thanks for your feedback .<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': PedroRozo, I already answered your question -> please test it and report any issue<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': PedroRozo, I already answered your question -> please test it and report any issue<br>
 
'''''hengsin''''': Carlos, yes, that's addressed<br>
 
'''''hengsin''''': Carlos, yes, that's addressed<br>
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1064 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Heng Sin Low" -resolution set to "Fixed"<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1064<br>
 
 
'''''red1''''': PedroRozo: does any other FOSS project does what you say?<br>
 
'''''red1''''': PedroRozo: does any other FOSS project does what you say?<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Venezuela and Ecuador are testing LCO - reporting issues and some reports come with proper patch to fix<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Venezuela and Ecuador are testing LCO - reporting issues and some reports come with proper patch to fix<br>
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'''''red1''''': sorry, you just answered!<br>
 
'''''red1''''': sorry, you just answered!<br>
 
'''''PedroRozo''''': do you have any knowledge/guidelines about this topic :Warehouse within GL Distribution in Idempiere/adempiere 3.6) ...https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=es#!topic/idempiere/_MrnG4BBitU<br>
 
'''''PedroRozo''''': do you have any knowledge/guidelines about this topic :Warehouse within GL Distribution in Idempiere/adempiere 3.6) ...https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=es#!topic/idempiere/_MrnG4BBitU<br>
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] red1 created IDEMPIERE-1373 org.adempiere.base.callout plugin needs to export org.compiere.model<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1373<br>
 
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': PedroRozo, you can try configuring userelement1 as warehouse<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': PedroRozo, you can try configuring userelement1 as warehouse<br>
 
'''''PedroRozo''''': but is that warehouse functionality working within the GL distribution logic ? ...or is there any otehr docs/url about how to use these advanced/hidden fields of the GL distribution ?<br>
 
'''''PedroRozo''''': but is that warehouse functionality working within the GL distribution logic ? ...or is there any otehr docs/url about how to use these advanced/hidden fields of the GL distribution ?<br>
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'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi Orlando<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': Hi Orlando<br>
 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': I have a question, we are working on payroll plugin, how can create a form on IDempiere ?<br>
 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': I have a question, we are working on payroll plugin, how can create a form on IDempiere ?<br>
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss created IDEMPIERE-1374 Enable zoom to match documents<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1374<br>
 
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': there is already a form in payroll - HRActionNotice - just follow the same approach<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': there is already a form in payroll - HRActionNotice - just follow the same approach<br>
 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': yes but only for swing client<br>
 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': yes but only for swing client<br>
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'''''CarlosRuiz''''': VHRActionNotice - swing view<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': VHRActionNotice - swing view<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': HRActionNotice - model<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': HRActionNotice - model<br>
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] vosskaem created IDEMPIERE-1375 Product info: available to promise shows Date Promised of order instead of order line<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1375<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1358 description set to "Steps to reproduce: 1. go to "Table and Column" window 2. navigate to first record on "Column" tab 3. go to first record on "Used in field" tab 4. click right on "Field" field, select "Zoom" of menu contextual. This action, opened "Window. Tab Field" window without records. In log show this error: {code} SEVERE: Count SQL=SELECT COUNT(*) FROM AD_Window WHERE ( ((AD_Field.AD_Fi<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1358<br>
 
 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': carlos in your Adempiere 361 final source is this form ?<br>
 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': carlos in your Adempiere 361 final source is this form ?<br>
 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': sorry my iPhone IRC client close my connections<br>
 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': sorry my iPhone IRC client close my connections<br>
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'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': ok thanks<br>
 
'''''DCS_Ocurieles''''': ok thanks<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hengsin - got the fix for the zoom to detail - testing it now<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': hengsin - got the fix for the zoom to detail - testing it now<br>
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1358 assignee set to "Carlos Antonio Ruiz Gomez"<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1358<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] sjeffen created IDEMPIERE-1376 Error message not translated in Validate Business Partner<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1376<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] nmicoud created IDEMPIERE-1377 Display logic of tabs is not used for update of path<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1377<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] nmicoud created IDEMPIERE-1378 Info Windows : add a button to reset all criteria<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1378<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] nmicoud created IDEMPIERE-1379 Info Windows should have their own icon/image<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1379<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-386 assignee set to "Heng Sin Low"<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-386<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] carlosruiz_globalqss updated IDEMPIERE-1359 status set to "Resolved" -assignee set to "Carlos Antonio Ruiz Gomez" -resolution set to "Incomplete"<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1359<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede created IDEMPIERE-1380 Detail Record panel control missing after reopen<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1380<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-1380 Attachment set to "step1.png"<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1380<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede created IDEMPIERE-1381 Cant find - Record Detail for translation - bottom panel<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1381<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-1381 Attachment set to "detailrecord.png"<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1381<br>
 
 
'''''norbertbede''''': hi<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': hi<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': we imported 15 000 products at customer site to idempiere<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': we imported 15 000 products at customer site to idempiere<br>
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'''''CarlosRuiz''''': there is a recommendation on forums to create an index to improve performance on product window<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': there is a recommendation on forums to create an index to improve performance on product window<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': also can be even better to disable a virtual column that is on product table<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': also can be even better to disable a virtual column that is on product table<br>
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede created IDEMPIERE-1382 left panel overlay "basic desktop" - layout<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1382<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-1382<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] tested on Version : 1.0.0.v20130918-1314 Database Version : 20131707164800_IDEMPIERE-1138.sql Vendor : Supported by iDempiere community JVM : OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 23.7-b01 OS : Linux 3.2.0-53-generic unknown Host : demo.idempiere.com<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1382<br>
 
 
'''''norbertbede''''': co i dont create issue  on that - altough 15k record not too mach<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': co i dont create issue  on that - altough 15k record not too mach<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': thanks - could you redirect me to that topic ?<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': thanks - could you redirect me to that topic ?<br>
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'''''CarlosRuiz''''': https://groups.google.com/d/msg/idempiere/dAfXNkfbhcw/vtVUpmbRhokJ<br>
 
'''''CarlosRuiz''''': https://groups.google.com/d/msg/idempiere/dAfXNkfbhcw/vtVUpmbRhokJ<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': THANKS<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': THANKS<br>
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-1382 Attachment set to "hide-unhide-leftpane.png"<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1382<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-1382<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] client: latest chrome, mac<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1382<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede updated IDEMPIERE-1354<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] patch works, looks. anyway i test it on actual demo.idempiere - not included. why ? maybe i dont understand patch concept vs. version releases....<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1354<br>
 
 
'''''norbertbede''''': Carlos what you suggest ? we are live at customer, with 1.0c. very slow implementation follow, process by process but realy customer.<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': Carlos what you suggest ? we are live at customer, with 1.0c. very slow implementation follow, process by process but realy customer.<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': i will report each bugs here, we found - or customer - but you suggest to update to nightly build ?<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': i will report each bugs here, we found - or customer - but you suggest to update to nightly build ?<br>
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'''''norbertbede''''': ok. so go trough patches, faced probllems<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': ok. so go trough patches, faced probllems<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': thanks well<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': thanks well<br>
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] norbert.bede created IDEMPIERE-1383 html report charset issue<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1383<br>
 
 
'''''norbertbede''''': other topic<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': other topic<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': we really start testing development on osgi, but my developers has problem with replace an exising feature  - override it trough plugin<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': we really start testing development on osgi, but my developers has problem with replace an exising feature  - override it trough plugin<br>
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'''''norbertbede''''': could anybody recommend the right direction ?<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': could anybody recommend the right direction ?<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': i believe my explanation is clear<br>
 
'''''norbertbede''''': i believe my explanation is clear<br>
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] vosskaem created IDEMPIERE-1384 changing moved quantity in production to lower than production quantity results in error<br>
 
'''''Not-002''''': [IDEMPIERE] http://idempiere.atlassian.net/browse/IDEMPIERE-1384<br>
 
 
'''''hengsin''''': norbertbede, you can't override classes through plugin<br>
 
'''''hengsin''''': norbertbede, you can't override classes through plugin<br>

Latest revision as of 19:45, 18 September 2013

Table of Contents | Full Meeting Minutes | Full Meeting 2013-09-18

PedroRozo: Good Morning/Afternnon everyone ...
red1: should we export or move those away to external Libero Mfg plugin?
hengsin: we can't move those to libero mfg plugin. the one in libero is not the same
CarlosRuiz: Good Morning
JanThielemann_: morning
nmicoud: Bonjour
PedroRozo: Carlos. quick question: LCO is stable within idempiere .?..we are targeting to start a small implementation soon with Idempeere and want to see if LCO is 100% functional at this moment.
CarlosRuiz: PedroRozo, please test it and report any issue
red1: hengsin: so can i raise tracker that package in Callout be exported for use from outside?
hengsin: yes, that can be useful if you want to extend it. what's your use case here ?
hengsin: Hi, Carlos, any progress on the zoom to detail tab issue ?
PedroRozo: sure Carlos. we are already in that process, just want check from your side, what is your status about it ...do you think is already stable ?
hengsin: that's one significant usability issue.
red1: hengsin: i am just extending the CalloutInOut
red1: u are right, its not using its own Libero
red1: that is in adempiere.base > org.eevolution.model
red1: so i rephrase - can we migrate eevolution away from base?
red1: since its only in use by external plugin
CarlosRuiz: hengsin, for the zoom to detail there is a patch from Juliana that I'm peer reviewing now
red1: and adempiere.base.Callout needs to export out org.compiere.model for common Callout reuse
red1: PedroRozo: question about stabllity cannot be answered by the creator
red1: he released it so that others test it. Then collectively we attest to its stability
red1: there is no vendor relationship here
Deepak: hengsin, Have you get chance to peer review IDEMPIERE-1306?
red1: i am about to release Libero Mfg... hope others test it
PedroRozo: Red1 ...i get your point, but still as a users/integrators, any time that we try to use a product/component from otehr members we expect to have a preliminary status of the stability/sttaus , is is a normal expectation ... doesn´t it ?
red1: it depends on testing <-- normal expectations
red1: Software development 101
red1: read the trackers, to ajudge some idea
red1: talk to others via forums on using it
hengsin: deepak, sorry, not yet.
red1: those who use will hit bugs
red1: then they are expected to report it <-- expected
red1: i never believe a developer's own testing
red1: or claims for that matter
red1: if i do, i will be happy in Adempiere
red1: put it bluntly, i don't trust Carlos. :D
red1: i advise u to do the same
red1: trust the Jenkins for build errors, then the JIRA for community usage that attest to its usability and stability
red1: just my 2 threads
CarlosRuiz: hengsin, about IDEMPIERE-1064 - did you check also the comment from Antonio Cañaveral?
PedroRozo: red1/carlos. I understand your "community oriented " perspective of testing ... but as a community, once in a while we should share our expriences/suggestion about challenges/stability of our components ... something simple as:, we believe is stable .. or perhaps : better wait , alot of developemnt is in progress ... anyways, thanks for your feedback .
CarlosRuiz: PedroRozo, I already answered your question -> please test it and report any issue
hengsin: Carlos, yes, that's addressed
red1: PedroRozo: does any other FOSS project does what you say?
CarlosRuiz: Venezuela and Ecuador are testing LCO - reporting issues and some reports come with proper patch to fix
CarlosRuiz: usually a bug report is fixed on next day (when not same day) - that's what I expect from community
red1: CarlosRuiz: LCO testing, bugs reported in the trackers by them ?
red1: sorry, you just answered!
PedroRozo: do you have any knowledge/guidelines about this topic :Warehouse within GL Distribution in Idempiere/adempiere 3.6) ...https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=es#!topic/idempiere/_MrnG4BBitU
CarlosRuiz: PedroRozo, you can try configuring userelement1 as warehouse
PedroRozo: but is that warehouse functionality working within the GL distribution logic ? ...or is there any otehr docs/url about how to use these advanced/hidden fields of the GL distribution ?
CarlosRuiz: > but is that warehouse functionality working within the GL distribution logic
CarlosRuiz: you must test it
CarlosRuiz: > is there any otehr docs/url about how to use these advanced/hidden fields of the GL distribution?
CarlosRuiz: there must be in *mpiere wikis
JanThielemann_: is it possible to group invoices for a customer?
JanThielemann_: for example a customer order on 1st, 5th and 8th of month and only get 1 invoice on 31st?
nmicoud: there is a checkbox for this
nmicoud: in generate invoice process
CarlosRuiz: invoice schedule functionality
nmicoud: something like 'consolidate'
JanThielemann_: thank you :)
JanThielemann_: what about delivery advice/notification - in german it's call "avis"
DCS_Ocurieles: good morning
CarlosRuiz: Hi Orlando
DCS_Ocurieles: I have a question, we are working on payroll plugin, how can create a form on IDempiere ?
CarlosRuiz: there is already a form in payroll - HRActionNotice - just follow the same approach
DCS_Ocurieles: yes but only for swing client
aparra: swing client idempiere not show this form.
DCS_Ocurieles: and really we need create this form on WebUI
JanThielemann_: use the IFormFactory OSGi component
JanThielemann_: and extend ADForm for webui forms
CarlosRuiz: there is a webui form also for HRActionNotice
CarlosRuiz: WHRActionNotice - zkwebui view
CarlosRuiz: VHRActionNotice - swing view
CarlosRuiz: HRActionNotice - model
DCS_Ocurieles: carlos in your Adempiere 361 final source is this form ?
DCS_Ocurieles: sorry my iPhone IRC client close my connections
CarlosRuiz: long time ago -> https://bitbucket.org/CarlosRuiz_globalqss/globalqss-adempiere-hr/src/tip/zkwebui/WEB-INF/src/org/eevolution/form
DCS_Ocurieles: ok thanks
CarlosRuiz: hengsin - got the fix for the zoom to detail - testing it now
norbertbede: hi
norbertbede: we imported 15 000 products at customer site to idempiere
norbertbede: after that i cant open product window. error message appear.
norbertbede: does anybody met similar behaviour ?
norbertbede: pls
CarlosRuiz: what error message?
norbertbede: moment pls i check it
norbertbede: Timeout loading row 1
norbertbede: 20:07:06.257===========> zkoss.handleError:1359: >>java.lang.IllegalStateException: Timeout loading row 1
norbertbede: if its something new i should create now a new issue
norbertbede: in jira
CarlosRuiz: there is a recommendation on forums to create an index to improve performance on product window
CarlosRuiz: also can be even better to disable a virtual column that is on product table
norbertbede: co i dont create issue on that - altough 15k record not too mach
norbertbede: thanks - could you redirect me to that topic ?
norbertbede: pls
norbertbede: no result if founding: Timeout loading row 1
CarlosRuiz: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/idempiere/dAfXNkfbhcw/vtVUpmbRhokJ
norbertbede: THANKS
norbertbede: Carlos what you suggest ? we are live at customer, with 1.0c. very slow implementation follow, process by process but realy customer.
norbertbede: i will report each bugs here, we found - or customer - but you suggest to update to nightly build ?
norbertbede: daily - or - periodically
norbertbede: would be nice to know your or community opninion
CarlosRuiz: are you at implementation stage? or production?
norbertbede: sorry dont know what you mean stage, but really database, starting each week appox 1 proces
norbertbede: so my side is producrtion
norbertbede: ah - implementation stage - some areas going to production - by proces
norbertbede: understand now
norbertbede: like they started to use business partners, products and assets. so cleaning base data now
norbertbede: then continue with other processes
CarlosRuiz: my advice is -> when in production you need to be very careful - apply patches on a test server - test everything and if everything goes ok then move it to prod
norbertbede: ok. so go trough patches, faced probllems
norbertbede: thanks well
norbertbede: other topic
norbertbede: we really start testing development on osgi, but my developers has problem with replace an exising feature - override it trough plugin
norbertbede: let'say we cusomise print format and need override basic function, we wonder how to do it
norbertbede: could anybody recommend the right direction ?
norbertbede: i believe my explanation is clear
hengsin: norbertbede, you can't override classes through plugin